tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3862216000300765627.post4772421265682747059..comments2024-01-16T03:42:46.705-05:00Comments on The Downward Spiral: Gary Johnson Hates Liberty and FreedomBill Hickshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17551954408189665078noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3862216000300765627.post-63479899435171496262012-09-12T20:56:13.861-04:002012-09-12T20:56:13.861-04:00He can say whatever he wants, asshat. It doesn'...He can say whatever he wants, asshat. It doesn't mean he actually believes any of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3862216000300765627.post-13927914683931686652012-09-12T13:46:48.456-04:002012-09-12T13:46:48.456-04:00Whatever, dude. Johnson's statement above mar...Whatever, dude. Johnson's statement above marks him as just one more duplicitous full of shit politician. If you want to vote for that, go right ahead but count me out.Bill Hickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17551954408189665078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3862216000300765627.post-16548267420747186272012-09-12T10:26:13.347-04:002012-09-12T10:26:13.347-04:00What a silly blog post. You complain about a polit...What a silly blog post. You complain about a politician's statement as if that alone was his position, while ignoring that he actually supports almost all of the positions you believe he should have stated? <br /><br />You write (and I insert comments in all caps): "We must strive to curtail the abuse of liberty by immediately ending all foreign occupations--GARY JOHNSON WANTS TO CLOSE FOREIGN MILITARY BASES AND PULL OUT OF AFGHANISTAN NOW, NOT WAIT FOR 2014. WHILE I'M SURE YOU COULD POINT TO OTHER MILITARY ENGAGEMENTS AND CALL THEM 'OCCUPATIONS', ODDS ARE GARY OPPOSES THOSE AS WELL), closing the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay (IT IS TRUE HE HAS SAID IT CAN'T REALLY BE CLOSED AS THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A NEED FOR SOMEPLACE TO PUT FOREIGN ENEMY COMBATANTS AS LONG AS WE ARE ENGAGED IN WARS, WHICH HE INCIDENTALLY WANTS TO END, BUT HE DOES SUPPORT FULL HABEAS CORPUS RIGHTS AND DUE PROCESS FOR ALL IN GUANTANAMO), vigorously prosecuting the use of torture (HE IS ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED TO TORTURE AND WOULD OUTLAW IT), repealing the Patriot Act (CHECK, WANTS TO REPEAL THE PATRIOT ACT AND THE NDAA PROVISIONS WHICH ARE SIMILARLY BAD), ending assassinations without trial (ALSO AGREES, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SUPPOSED NDAA AUTHORITY) and stopping the use of drone missiles to carry out random attacks abroad and drone aircraft to conduct domestic surveillance (JOHNSON AGREES!). Only by respecting the human rights and dignity of all of the world's people and the Constitutional rights of our own citizens here at home may we possibly hope to maintain the ideals of liberty and freedom that the founders of this great nation bestowed upon us.(AND THOUGH HE OBVIOUSLY HASN'T RESPONDED TO YOUR QUOTE, WOULD PROBABLY SUPPORT THIS STATEMENT COMPLETELY)"<br /><br />Very odd blog post, it's as if you hadn't even investigated his positions on these topics. Nothing in the Johnson quote you cited opposes these ideas, unless you believe you can't support the troops because the civilian leadership has them doing things they shouldn't have ever been asked to do. It is true that Gary Johnson said the original attacks on Afghanistan were justified in response to the 9/11 attacks, but he also said that mission ended in the first six months and we should have been out of Afghanistan thereafter (11 years ago now).Eric Blitznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3862216000300765627.post-83331620821300145082012-09-11T21:44:11.180-04:002012-09-11T21:44:11.180-04:00You have to understand what these randroids mean w...You have to understand what these randroids mean when they talk about liberty. The only liberty they really care about, is the freedom to make money. OH! AND LEGALIZE THE WEED, MAN! That's it. They want freedom to make money. If it in any way hinders making money, that's what they think tyranny is. They don't think it's tyranny to wall and fence off every piece of land on Earth and sell it to private owners and corporations, they don't think it's tyranny to pay slave wages, they don't think it's tyranny to give land owners absolute property rights, especially over any tenants that will be forced to rent from them. Here, this is what I always link to when people are discussing (right-wing)libertarianism:<br />http://www.infoshop.org/page/AnarchistFAQSectionFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3862216000300765627.post-60856954464779393002012-09-11T11:56:45.595-04:002012-09-11T11:56:45.595-04:00I'd suggest reading the Green Party platform. ...I'd suggest reading the Green Party platform. See what you think, and vote your conscience. Regarding the Patriot Act, read section F1. It doesn't include closing Guantanamo, but no party does.<br /><br />On the 'throwing away your vote' mantra one hears about voting third party, one truly throws it away by voting for a person or set of policies that they don't truly support (or by not voting). The system will never change if there isn't public pressure to change in the form of voting and/or demonstrations. If you don't support any of the third parties, write someone in. U.S. history isn't without examples of third parties and independents having major effects on U.S. policy.<br /><br />This is not to say that Dr. Stein wouldn't be up against it if by some miracle she was elected.<br /><br />On the corruption of the system itself, I was very sad to read this:<br />http://news.yahoo.com/why-elizabeth-warren-wants-repeal-part-obamacare-163219090--abc-news-politics.html<br /><br />Warren WAS one of the very few people I thought had a chance of truly running on principle. I was hoping the article would be about arguing against the individual mandate, but no, it's about a 2.3% medical device tax - because her potential constituency includes several makers (and its employees) of medical devices. So, like every other person in Congress, principle is thown out the window when it comes to individual selfish needs.<br /><br />This is why we're cooked. We can't see beyond ourselves, and our system enforces this myopia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3862216000300765627.post-45420625744691071462012-09-11T08:39:20.985-04:002012-09-11T08:39:20.985-04:00I'll never forget the scene of My Pet Goat. I...I'll never forget the scene of My Pet Goat. It was just astonishing to see Bush sitting there, minute after minute, after he got the news. The cracks in the official sham story continue to widen, in an article today in the NYTimes:<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html<br /><br />and a documentary aired by PBS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBCu_pvhnzQGail Zawackihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01800944469843206253noreply@blogger.com